Friday 2 December 2016

word choice - Can たい and たがる be used for a 1st/2nd/3rd person's desire?



もし生まれ変わっても見たい映画は あなたにありますか?




When I saw the the above sentence, I started to wonder. Is it an over simplification to say that たい can only be used for your own desires? However the sentence above might be explained, it seems to me it is clearly not about the speaker's own wish, but about which movie(s) the reader would want to watch.


Under what circumstances or conditions is it permissible to use たい with a desire other than your own? Can たがる be used with one's own desire?



Answer



I'd recommend a beginner not to use たがる at all (but ~しようとする or ~したいと思う instead) because it tends to convey a contemptuous nuance and depending on cases, the meaning is slightly different from "to want", which highly matches ~したいと思っている.


Expressing other person's inner thought in indicative is avoided, in other words, it's ok if it's not indicative.


For examples, 誰か行きたい人 and あなたが行きたければ are interrogative and conditional respectively, hence, no problem in the first place. のだ forms are another way to dodge the restriction.


On the other hand, there are some exceptions.



  1. In narrative, the auther can express a character's feel directly.

  2. In commentary, "it's desirable for X to do something" is rephrased as "Xは◯◯したい(ですね)".


  3. When you really sympathized with someone, you could express it directly. However, this usage is almost limited to うれしい and つらい.


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