Wednesday, 28 December 2016

grammar - Meaning of 過去形の動詞 +「[上]{うえ}で」


Lately, I've been wondering about the meaning of a past tense verb connected to 上で, like in the 3 examples below:



両親とよく相談した上で、留学することにした。


家を買う場合は、十分調べた上で、決めた方がいい。


よく考えた上で、返事をするつもりだ。




What's the meaning of 過去形の動詞+上で ?



Answer



It means "after doing 〜". Almost like 〜てから.




  • 両親とよく相談した上で、留学することにした。 → After discussing it with my parents, I decided that I'll study abroad.

  • 家を買う場合は、十分調べた上で、決めた方がいい。 → When you buy a house, you should choose (it) after doing sufficient research.

  • よく考えた上で、返事をするつもりだ。 → I intend to reply after careful consideration.





There is some other nuance I believe, but I'll have to look it up later. The nuance to it is that the second action is performed based on the result of the first action (as @TokyoNagoya mentioned). With 〜てから, no such relationship is required, meaning that it simply indicates temporal order. For example



○ 昼食を食べてから銀行に行く → "I'll go to the bank after I eat lunch" → Going to the bank doesn't depend on me eating lunch; simply states the order of what I'm doing.
?/× 昼食を食べた上で銀行に行く → It introduces a dependency for going to the bank on eating lunch. Almost like "As a result of eating lunch, I'll go to the bank." Doesn't make much sense.



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